Varlawend: Mysteries Among the Stars

It is interesting to understand the correlation between typology theories like Enneagram and Socionics, because then we can make some inferences from one to the other. We can also have some insight into possible redundancies or complementation between the theories. I do not believe that Enneagram type has much correlation to the level of sociotype, since sociotype has a great deal of variation. In Humanitarian Socionics, any sociotype is capable of being paired with any subtype or any functional accentuation, but it doesn't give an explanation as to why we are drawn to specific functional accentuations or why those functional accentuations are specifically enduring (except for the fact that it relates to a psychological complex, which is obvious). Enneagram is a deep and dynamic theory of fixations which are more enduring than our SHS subtype or accentuations. An enneagram type is more like a specific archetypal or motivation complex which describes our ability to flexibly flow in ...

More The list below is simply reorganized from the link above to make it easier to compare tritypes, I'm not claiming credit for anything. 125: The Ethical Scholar, The Know-It-All -512: Simone de Beauvoir, Patti Smith 126: The Advocate Firebrand, The Tyranny of Should -126: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez -612: Emma Watson 127: The Spirited Educator, The Virtuous Entertainer -127: Kenneth Copeland -721: Joe Biden 135: The Technocrat, The Meticulous Android -135: Mitch McConnel -153: Greta Thunberg -351: Tim Ferriss -513: Yuval Noah Harari -531: Rooney Mara, Ken Wilber, Tilda Swinton 136: The Drill Sergeant, The Strict Protocol -136: Hillary Clinton -163: Asha Rangappa -316: Megyn Kelly, Nancy Pelosi -361: Sarah Michelle Gellar -613: Gillian Anderson, Jerry Seinfeld -631: Tina Fey, Jennifer Aniston, Kristen Bell, David Tenant, Debra Messing, Eric McCormack, Amy Poehler, Reese Witherspoon, Julie Louis-Dreyfus, Rue McClanahan 137: The Startup, The Symphonic Architect -137: Cate Blanchett, L...

https://www.reddit.com/r/Socionics/comments/trelft/model_g_ili_social_mission_and_subtype_variants/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf There is a lot in this post that I agree with and support, and a lot that I disagree with. The TLDR is that I like your suggestions for developing a subtype in oneself which is undeveloped, and agree with many of the disconnected comments about Critics, but I think there are a fair few errors in how the subtypes are defined and especially in how you conceive of the SHS subtype system.   I mostly agree with your first paragraph, with the exception that ILI’s are particularly unthreatening to large organizations. It’s probably difficult for single people of most types to threaten large organizations, but Critics are one of the most revolutionary types from the perspective of SHS Socionics, so I would say they can threaten them more than most types. Creative Critics can use their convincing sense of irony and cynicism to disenc...

The 4 Order Rings: Revolutionary Sparking Ring: Seeker, Mentor, Politic, Administrator -Extroverted, Evolutionary,  Radical Suggestions that concentrate energy to stir up fundamental changes Implementing Networking Ring: Enthusiast, Marshal, Entrepreneur, Advisor -Extroverted, Involutionary,  Moderate Evaluations which diffuse energy to select and stabilize changes Stabilizing Elaborating Ring: Mediator, Inspector, Critic, Humanist -Introverted, Evolutionary,  Moderate Evaluations which diffuse energy to select and stabilize changes Latent Enfolding Ring: Analyst, Lyricist, Guardian, Artisan -Introverted, Involutionary,  Radical Suggestions that concentrate energy to stir up fundamental changes --- 4 Kinds of Business Logic (P): Productivity, Labor Cost, Management (-P?) Administrator, Revolutionary Sparking P Sales, Investments, Financial Risk (+P!) Entrepreneur, Implementing Networking P Economy, Guarantees, Savings (-P!) ...

Warning: These correlations are NOT strict.  They can be violated by unique development. -Manager Te: ILE-D, SLE-D, SLE-N, LSI-D, LIE-D, ILI-D, LSE-D -Builder Te: ILE-N, LIE-N, LSE-N, SLI-N -Ideologue Ti: LSI-N, ILI-N -Systemist Ti: LII-C, LII-N -Shepherd Fe: ESE-D, EIE-D, SEE-D -Host Fe: ESE-N, SEI-C, SEE-N, IEE-N -Quester Fi: EII-D -Romantic Fi: IEI-N, EII-C, EII-N -Mover Se: SLE-C, LSI-C, LSE-C, SLI-D, SLI-C -Sensate Se: ESE-H, SEI-H, SLE-H, SEE-H, ESI-C, SLI-H -Defender Si: ESI-D, ESI-N -Hearth Si: SEI-N, LSI-H, ESI-H, LSE-H -Marketer Ne: ILE-C, ESE-C, SEI-D, EIE-C, IEI-D, SEE-C, LIE-C, IEE-D, IEE-C -Catalyst Ne: ILE-H, IEI-C, LIE-H, ILI-C, IEE-H -Visionary Ni: LII-D, EIE-N -Oracle Ni: LII-H, EIE-H, IEI-H, ILI-H, EII-H

Safsom: I don't want people to take this literally and say "mmm yess immoral person being said bad. Beta or Delta." Because there is more to the "aristocracy" of Deltas if there does even exist one - I think it is quite internal, subdued, and to do with personal space. I find the only people Deltas categorically dislike and subject to "hierarchical" formation are those that disagree with considering new perspectives and hold too strongly to one view. Aristocratic/Democratic to me seems less realistic. My response: I agree with you that the aristocracy of Delta is far more subdued than the aristocracy of Beta, to the point that calling it aristocracy is questionable (but there may be something to it). This is a good point that needs to be explored more decisively at some point IMO. ... Safsom: Static/Dynamic and Judicious/Decisive are usually fine. So is Merry/Serious. Result/Process is a bit too easy to distort, I don't see it as realistic My Re...

I will be considering: -The Mastermind (INTJ, Contender Rational) -The Architect (INTP, Accommodating Rational) -The Counselor (INFJ, Contender Idealist) -The Healer (INFP, Accommodating Idealist) Levels of fit for particular points: 4 - Yes/strong agreement 3 - Maybe/significant agreement, but some issues 2 - Meh/a lot of problems, but a tiny bit of truth 1 - No/mostly or total disagreement The Mastermind (INTJ, Contender Rational): Mastermind total: -Yes: 1 -Maybe: 11 -Meh: 7 -No: 6 (No)- First of all, I honestly don't like the name "Mastermind".  It sounds like it might attract people who narcissistically want to think of themselves as a mastermind, or that it might push people away who might really resemble the type but wouldn't identify with such a bombastic title. (Maybe)- I do relate to the Mastermind in that I am very inclined to think forward and think about what might go wrong, whether that's in doing a project, the timing of the release, going on a vaca...