Aushra's Letters

Excerpts from Letters 1987 - 1991

A.Augustinavichute .

 

In 2002 A.Augustinavichyute allowed to publish some of her letters. We allowed ourselves minor editing and reduction.

Correspondence with doctors from Latvia Peters and Karpov

Latvia, Balvi, 01/13/1987.
Dear Comrade Augustinavichyute!
I got acquainted with the article in "Stroitelnaya Gazeta" dated January 7, 1987, which aroused my interest. We have already heard about types of people, but the relationship between them has not been analyzed. Why exactly the article interested the doctor - I will explain:
Firstly, medical teams are formed from people who, as a rule, have, apart from secondary, a special education.
Secondly, collectives of sanitary and epidemiological stations perform supervisory functions, i.e. no conflicts at controlled facilities can not do.
Thirdly, there are no sufficiently clear criteria for evaluating the work of each.
Fourth, the teams are different in age.
All taken together sometimes leads to such a complication of the microclimate that it is impossible to do without the intervention of higher organizations; here is personal hostility, dissatisfaction with work, colleagues, etc. I would like to learn more about your work on socionics. It is worth having a team leader a table of relationships between types of people, as well as characteristics for each type.
If it does not hinder you to help us in acquiring this information, we will be grateful to you. The material costs caused by our request will be immediately refunded.
Respectfully,
Chief State Sanitary Doctor of the Balva District Yu.PETERS

Vilnius, 02/04/1987.
Comrade Peters
very pleased that the article by Savely Kashnitsky aroused your interest. In this regard, I am sending you an earlier article about socionics, which gives a definite idea of ​​who is engaged in socionics in Leningrad, which is closer to you than Vilnius.
I could give you some Leningrad addresses for direct contact, but for this you need to know the personality type or personality type of the comrade who will establish this connection. Therefore, if this business really interested you, send me your picture to me, as well as pictures of those people whose compatibility or incompatibility you are interested in. Unfortunately, we have no specific one hundred percent technique, as, incidentally, in medicine, to establish the correct diagnosis. There are people willing to work, i.e. - use the theory of intertype relations in their practice only on condition that they will be presented with an exact technique with which, like with a thermometer, they will establish personality types for all the people they need. Unfortunately, this is not so and will not be so for a long time. Because those energy flows, which people constantly exchange among themselves, although they are determined by the type of personality, are also determined by other properties due to the fact that the discharge for which type of personality goes along a different meridian (a separate part of the total nervous system of a person or that part of the human nervous system that causes a person’s connection with people around him and which provides a certain organ with a peculiar connection with certain parts of the brain). This definition is quite inaccurate, but I still do not have any theoretical developments on this subject, and what I know for sure on this issue is that each type of person, with insufficiently good relations with other people, spoils one and only one ( in fact, two) an organ whose names correspond to the meridian of the person along which this emission occurs. And that’s just because that at the information level, this meridian, together with the so-called paired meridian, is connected to that nerve node that is connected to the so-called (according to eastern medicine) fifth chakra or chakram. We hope that in the future it will be possible to measure the frequency and wavelength with which one person strikes another person. In addition, this wave in all cases (except for manifest aggression) is harmless only to the identity and dual. To some extent, this applies to the quadra (activators), that is, to those types of personality with which the dual pair has an activation and mirror relationship. However, provided that the person is closed, that is, he contacts a lot with people who have a dual personality type. In all other cases, a kind of energy pollution occurs, or the so-called energy poisoning,
What is completely incomprehensible to me is what the relationship is, or in what relationship the energy-information charges known to me consist of, because I put an equal sign between information and energy, and the so-called viruses. By the way viruses are described, they are very similar to how I can imagine such an energy charge. Undoubtedly, both viruses and energy charges have different sizes. And sometimes it seems to me that in any case, with regard to what is considered the smallest viruses, there is nothing like charges like that, and sometimes these charges are an order of magnitude smaller than these viruses. And if you have any thoughts about this, please let me know about them.
I am sending you, in addition to the above article, which will come in a separate envelope, a list of my works. Almost any of them, and fast enough, I can imagine. The usual conditions are 10 kopecks. per typescript. The most necessary thing for beginners is “Socion,” “Theory of intertype relationships,” some people like the “dual nature of man,” according to which some even establish their own types. However, in this respect, only characteristics work quite well, of which, however, I have only six. (...)
A.AUGUSTINAVICHUTE.

03/05/87.
Hello comrade Augustinavichyute!
Thank you for the detailed and detailed response to our letter. We apologize that our response was somewhat delayed.
At first, we were confused, the questions that were discussed were too incomprehensible to us, unknown terms and new generalizations completed the matter.
3 doctors got acquainted with letters and theory. The reaction was completely different.
Having discussed, we came to the conclusion that the theory of IO is really necessary, although we cannot agree with a number of points. We agree with the fact that there is a pattern in the relations between people (individuals). With the fact that, probably, this pattern is revealed by your theory, too. But we cannot accept the presence of biofields and the identity between information and energy in your understanding. Justify.
Firstly, a biofield is nothing but a function, and cannot exist by itself; a structure is needed that creates this function. Modern knowledge of human anatomy and histology answers this question unambiguously - there are five analyzers in the human body:
• Visual analyzer (eye, perceiving nerve cells, transmitting, area of ​​the cerebral cortex, perceiving visual information) - type of energy - light, 95% of the information coming from the outside world and conscious.
• Auditory analyzer (outer ear, inner, etc.) - type of energy - sound waves.
• Tactile analyzer (tactile skin receptors) - type of energy - mechanical.
• Olfactory analyzer (olfactory receptors of the nasal mucosa) - type of energy - chemical.
• Taste analyzer (taste buds of the oral mucosa) - type of energy - chemical.
It follows from this that the human body does not perceive and cannot perceive any other types of energies, such as radio waves, because there are no corresponding structures (analyzers).
Most likely, all the variety of human relations that I want to squeeze into the rule is a product of the human brain, and the necessary structures inside it are possible, but the information itself comes only through the analyzers listed above, and the ratio of this information, reaching the consciousness from various analyzers , rushes through one of four channels (1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th functions), which, as you know, are not equivalent, and therefore the perception will be different.
Let us explain an example. For the same information from different people (with different types of MI), one individual will have a different reaction, i.e. the totality of all the information received from different analyzers will reach consciousness through various channels (functions), changing in its own way in each channel. This is all the more plausible until it is established what the right hemisphere of the cerebral cortex is doing in right-handed people, and the left in left-handed people.
Undoubtedly, the theory has already benefited us in the fact that we are changing the approach to assessing the phenomena occurring around us socially. We reject the concepts of smart / stupid, good / bad, in case of conflict brewing, we maintain a safe distance, try to understand the motives, goals of another person.
But, perhaps, the first time we can not do without your help. We offer the first experiments to determine the type of IM to your court.
Karpov Oleg (author of the letter) is a sensory-logical introtym.
The money sent to you is intended for specifications - those documents that we have already received. The table of intertype relationships is of interest only in terms of design - we believe that the theory clearly shows them on a concrete example of one type of MI.
We ask for your advice on how to create albums of people with one type of IM. There are very few on sale, there are practically no known people represented on your list. Do you accept our request to identify those famous people (artists, writers) whose cards we will be able to purchase. Perhaps you will tell me how to get cards (labeled by type of IM) in another way.
(...)
respectfully
Y. PETERS, O. KARPOV.

03/12/1987.
Hello to the medical world.
It was very pleasant to receive your collective letter, which may be the beginning of a more or less lengthy scientific discussion, or perhaps end with this letter, when one of you is tired of answering these questions, either too long or too long short, either too scientific, or too little scientific, or too academic, or not academic at all, for the type of personality determines both the type of scientific thinking and the type of scientific creativity and other things that I already know quite well and what however, it is so difficult to describe because more and more new facts of both the real world and the theoretical interpretation of these facts appear. And almost the most important thing, why it’s still impossible to take and describe how I see what already today is covered by the terms “socion” and “socionics”, that’s
As a matter of fact, I have so little time for anything, including letters, that I will answer your letter and even with a carbon copy only for the reason that this letter calls me into a discussion. And my type of thinking is nicknamed Don Quixote, but better - Niels (Bohr) is so inspired during any discussion that any epistolary expression of his thoughts organizes his own thinking much more. And therefore, I just take this opportunity to speculate that your letter is dictated by the knowledge of certain scientific terms and recognized scientific laws, for my type of thinking develops and receives new impetus only at scientific conferences, but those today have apparently degenerated from - due to the fact that the personality type of Bohr or Niels is almost expelled from science due to a certain slow-thinking. Unfortunately, such a pattern, that every intuitive logical one is most slow-witted in science, because there it is only an observer for a long time, and then, realizing that something is wrong here, it starts to argue with everyone, and therefore often gets "out of step" with time or with leading scientists who did not belong to this type of personality, they have already found their track, albeit in the mistakes of the past, and in the new track - even the same track of mistakes that someone else has already discovered - cannot enter. The best example is an example of a not-so-successful collaboration between Einstein and Niels Bohr, although both belonged to the same type of personality and both found their own track of errors in science. and therefore often gets “out of step" with the time or with leading scientists who did not belong to this type of personality, have already found their track, albeit in the mistakes of the past, and in the new track - albeit the same track of errors that I have already discovered someone else can’t enter already. The best example is an example of a not-so-successful collaboration between Einstein and Niels Bohr, although both belonged to the same type of personality and both found their own track of errors in science. and therefore often gets “out of step" with the time or with leading scientists who did not belong to this type of personality, have already found their track, albeit in the mistakes of the past, and in the new track - albeit the same track of errors that I have already discovered someone else can’t enter already. The best example is an example of a not-so-successful collaboration between Einstein and Niels Bohr, although both belonged to the same type of personality and both found their own track of errors in science.
(...) I have some doubts about both intuitive and ethical types, which are necessary in science only under the condition that one of the leaders has a type complementary to them. But the sensory-logical ones are usually not involved in science, although they can work with pleasure as leaders, especially of large institutes, because if as scientists they are creative and in science and are not very able to do, then they are almost irreplaceable as leaders of any large links in the economy . An example would be the Kaunas vibration engineering laboratory, which is supervised or supervised and its actual organizer is prof. Ragulskas. He is an extrathim sensory-logical, an extrathim is a logical-sensory wife - these two leading types united and organized this rather large, in fact, even completely economic enterprise, for they mainly hunt on economic contracts, even with fairly plentiful foreign trips. And each sensorik knows very well how financially beneficial it is for both the enterprise and the employees who will service those contracts.
And they are not at all bothered by the question of how many different economic rubbish and minor financial troubles will arise in this case, because this, in essence, is their element, the element of the manager, and even more so - the manager of such a large scale, which these two types are, which in such a union, even if these are not a dual couple and such a marriage is difficult enough, he lacks any type of emotionality, and in such cases it is especially necessary to maintain a secretary to maintain the atmosphere of creative activity of the leader, or even s secretary supplementing the type - that is, the appropriate type of intuitive-ethical, which will complement their leader and to mitigate some of its tight corners. For everyone is hard on himself. And Lenin came to life, as Krupskaya herself writes, when his dual Inessa Armand came to them.
A noticeable feature, especially sensory logical extratim, is the timely execution of any scientific or pseudoscientific impulses, for these are masters in documentary design, people who know perfectly well that only a formalized thought, if it is properly framed, that is, is printed on paper in the right format and qualities will continue to be considered a thought (even if I am here and a little scoff at their talents, but this is so honest truth that the truth is not true). And therefore, when you read about the scientist, that he, like that of prof. Ragulskas, there are 300 scientific works, then this, I think, can be done only by another sensory-logical extratim.
As for the character images I received, it’s usually that my type makes a lot of mistakes on the basis of the images and therefore I don’t trust myself, but it seems to me that Y. Peters is Nils, that is, like me, and O. Karpov is Maxim . Therefore, it is absolutely certain that Niels will understand me much better, but will not believe me until he has verified all this in practice. He will not even understand why Don Quixote is worse than Niels if he does not try to use this word in the text. It's just that Niels Bohr is well known, and his name is the shortest of all well-known people with this type of personality. And therefore with any Niels in the beginning it is absolutely impossible to argue. When he accepts, he is silent, for this is self-evident, if it is correct, and if he rejects, he speaks about it in almost one word: "but this is stupid." And this is not an argument. Therefore, Niels becomes truly fruitful only when paired with his dual, whether his wife, like that of Niels Bohr, or a batman like Peter 1 had Menshikov. Therefore, it would be better if the correspondence with me will lead, if it does not complicate you, and since it does not complicate, because I also have difficulties over time, [your colleague] Maxim. Because he will beat me with certain facts at the same time as at a real scientific conference, but I will have to look for objections, and thus - a little understanding of which attacks - whether they are right or not - await me in the future. Although I’m not going to become an academician, it’s not so easy to finish Niels after he started up and after he learned to use the advice of his own duals. Therefore, it would be better if the correspondence with me will lead, if it does not complicate you, and since it does not complicate, because I also have difficulties over time, [your colleague] Maxim. Because he will beat me with certain facts at the same time as at a real scientific conference, but I will have to look for objections, and thus - a little understanding of which attacks - whether they are right or not - await me in the future. Although I’m not going to become an academician, it’s not so easy to finish Niels after he started up and after he learned to use the advice of his own duals. Therefore, it would be better if the correspondence with me will lead, if it does not complicate you, and since it does not complicate, because I also have difficulties over time, [your colleague] Maxim. Because he will beat me with certain facts at the same time as at a real scientific conference, but I will have to look for objections, and thus - a little understanding of which attacks - whether they are right or not - await me in the future. Although I’m not going to become an academician, it’s not so easy to finish Niels after he started up and after he learned to use the advice of his own duals. I will have to look for objections, and thus - a little understanding of which attacks - whether they are right or not - await me in the future. Although I’m not going to become an academician, it’s not so easy to finish Niels after he started up and after he learned to use the advice of his own duals. I will have to look for objections, and thus - a little understanding of which attacks - whether they are right or not - await me in the future. Although I’m not going to become an academician, it’s not so easy to finish Niels after he started up and after he learned to use the advice of his own duals.
(...)
(without a signature).

04/10/08.
I am trying to find objective methods of dividing into logicians / ethics, intuitics / sensors, deductics / inductors. He attracted a psychiatrist for cooperation, and before that he made him familiar with the theory of IM. His opinion is brief: "This has long been known." I explained to him what the novelty is. He continued: “I have no doubt that this is quite new, if we exclude the“ paranoid ”, but the problems raised are so great that the theory will come to life no earlier than in 25 years. It’s hard for me to accept ideas, I was brought up on dogmas, which in this case are interpreted illogically. ”
He did not refuse to help me.
After some time, I will have to put those who want to get acquainted with the theory in the queue. However, I do not get satisfaction, because I can not distinguish inductors from deductics.
The Atlas of Psychology by M.V. Gameso, I. A. fell into my hands. Domashenko, Moscow, "Enlightenment", 1986. An excellent book to bring to a readable form (easy to digest) your work. It gives definitions of all the terms of modern psychology. Of greatest interest is the chapter “Individual Psychological Characteristics of the Personality” with reference to Eisenck, Halley, Pavlov, Merlin, Rubinstein, Kretschmer, Rostan, Sheldon, etc. At the end, clinical (uniquely recognizable) personality traits are determined by tests.
Maybe you will try to sort them in order to objectively separate inductors / deductics, logicians / ethics, sensory / intuitics. For these purposes, tests on pages 183, 255, 261 are suitable (Fig. 30, 1-2). Help me.
Yours sincerely,
OLEG KARPOV

Vilnius, 04.16.1987.
For some reason I received your two letters right away, only today.
Yes, the truth is, in the first picture you are so squeezed that even today I can hardly recognize Dumas in it. Congratulations that your boss is a dual to you.
Your wife - we will extradite you with a mirror image. This is not so bad, but you should think about reorganizing the psyche for a more comfortable married life. For this, your wife should have thoughtfully read the Don Quixote characterization several times, and after a while, no doubt, not without your help, if only because it will be easier for her to be with you than in the mirror can then measure to be reorganized.
Since you are Dumas, you do not really sit at home. Since you are a doctor, you have easy contact with people. Therefore, I have a proposal - come this summer to my village, which I call a village. This is Zapiskis, 20 km from Kaunas. I’ve been there almost all summer, half in Vilnius, half in Zapiskis, so that I don’t get too tired in one place. Somewhere in the middle of summer, I suppose to arrange something like a summer camp. But you need with your family. There are more than enough empty rooms in our village. But no one here is used to renting premises for no reason. But since you are a doctor, this is a completely different matter. I think that you, like Dumas, know perfectly well that any medicine is effective only insofar as ... the doctor politely says. That is, only the psychotherapeutic effect is effective. And even the fact that a person knows that if something happens they will put him in a hospital, if this is not a surgical case, it is only psychotherapy. Therefore, it will not impose any obligations on you. And if I announce there that a doctor, or even from another republic, needs a room in this village for some time, then I have no doubt that he will very soon respond. And if you have a hunt for this business by the middle of summer, then please write to me about this at my village address, which I give on the envelope, because now I am going there. And more will be there than here. Too much work, but other things are distracting here. And if you have a hunt for this business by the middle of summer, then please write to me about this at my village address, which I give on the envelope, because now I am going there. And more will be there than here. Too much work, but other things are distracting here. And if you have a hunt for this business by the middle of summer, then please write to me about this at my village address, which I give on the envelope, because now I am going there. And more will be there than here. Too much work, but other things are distracting here.
(...)
(without a signature).

Letter to D. Lytov.

Vilnius, 30.4.91.
Hey. In Lithuania, without a middle name. In Lithuania they are afraid of a middle name as a sign of Russophilia. And I'm afraid, but already as Chinese, that is, an form of politeness that no one understands.
Now about your socionic considerations.
My first works are not without sin. You caught one of them ( D.L. - In my letter I objected to her assumption that the sign of schizotimity-cyclotimity is inherited, especially if it coincides with the parents ). Just under the influence of [ideas] E. Kretschmer, that there are schizotymic and cyclotymic families, I realized that it was innate. This is not true. Schizo-cyclotimity can be called just conditional abstractions. When a yogi or sensitive changes his type, he doesn’t care who he turns into - schizotima or cyclotima, introvert or extrovert.
The first theoretician in the field of type change was Grigory Reinin. It is a pity that he does not work further in this area.
As for the twins, everything that is known about them is scientifically unjustified. I will say only one thing: the twins from the bosom of the same mother and nine months lived emotionally the same life. So the parent brain is the same, and the emotional experiences of a fairly long period are the same. Therefore, the same karma or the same karmic experiences arises or is excited. Or rather, the experiences of past generations of the clan. Here it’s easy to think of the same names of dogs, and besides, karmic relatives constantly tug at each other. And their current experiences are very similar. The energy connection between people is lost only when it is clean: programmatic (closed chain), and not karmic (open chain).
Conflict relations in families can be any number. I myself grew up with a sister conflict. When parents are not duals, children turn into horrible things. And - as they once adapted to some situation, they remain if fear has worked or some kind of karmic mechanism.
When parents are duals - it also happens in every way. I know one family - he is Don Quixote, she is Dumas. The eldest daughter is Stirlitz. But she was spoiled by the maid-Dostik, who, among other things, sat on her mother’s head and therefore impressed her daughter. Second daughter Maxim. Tu was spoiled by a neighbor who did not have her children, and who liked a smart alien child.
You have a fairly serious interest in socionics. Use the power of your type to develop hitherto unresolved issues. I was ill for three years and retired. Now I am going to release my magazine. I’ll either pick up Socionics from Kiev or come up with a new name. So far, there are probably not enough articles for two serious magazines. And maybe enough, then I will give battle to others so that mine would be the most readable.
Do not disappear. Send a photo. And for acquaintance, and because we publish a socionic album. Will you be in Vilnius - drop in.
Keep in mind that our type learns best from any business when trying to teach others.
A. Augusta.

Comments

Popular posts from this blog

SHS Subtypes Reference 2022

Psychosophy Clubs and Sextas

My General Understanding of Psychosophy