Talanov on Positivism/Negativism
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Since Talanov introduced Asking/Declaring functions, Positivism-Negativism has become a little more clear. In fact, Positivism is the inertness of Declaring functions (Di and De), Negativism is the inertness of the Asking functions (Qi and Qe).
Apparently, the basic content of Asking-Declaring is that Declarers work to achieve consensus, to form a social norm (which is inevitably associated with simplification of ideas), and Askers - to delimit opinions, their deviation from the norm and complication. At least, conflict with Askers occurs much more often, and this is quite understandable in this vein.
The inertness of a function means that the subject is fixated on its aspect. Why does this happen? Apparently, because the inertness of a function is, in fact, a deviation of its value from the average population norm. There may be a positive deviation (excessive strength) or a negative deviation (excessive weakness), but only the absolute size of the deviation is important. Any too strong deviation gives the carrier of the function rare useful properties, but at the same time it also gives harmful properties, which can lead to social disadaptation. Therefore, tracking an aspect of this function becomes very important for a person. If the function is strong, the aspect is monitored, since it is constantly involved and the subject relies too much on it. If it is weak - because the subject is too vulnerable and has to spend forces to always be able to evade other people's work on it. Positivism is obsession with Declaring, that is, consensus opinions. Types with strong inert Declaring (ESE, LSI, LIE and EII) work on consensus, on the convergence and simplification of opinions. Types with weak inert Declaring (SEE, SLI, ILE and IEI), on the contrary, need no consensus to have room for maneuvers (and often they destroy this consensus with their own actions).
Negativism is a fixation on Asking, on the loosening norms of deviance in oneself and other people. Types with strong inert Asking (LII, EIE, ESI and LSE) tend to complicate everything in their area of competence (associated with club values), create deviations from the usual norm. Types with weak inert Asking (ILI, IEE, SEI and SLE), on the contrary, in theory, suffer when everything is too difficult, they would prefer things be simpler, closer to the norm. Therefore, they track deviations to deal with them.
Since deviations from the norm, as I said above, are not a harmless thing, and often leading to disadaptation, a person obsessed with deviations will in fact look out for any unhealthy features in the world, and his mood will deteriorate. Therefore, Negativism becomes associated with depressive melancholia, while Positivism becomes euphoric.
However, on the other hand, the Negativist point of view will be broader than that of the Positivist, since the norm is a narrower thing. Therefore, for example, gullibility, naivety and a tendency to fall for scams are to some extent associated with Positivism. And high intelligence, as I recently figured here, is very weak, but still correlates with Negativism. Negativists, judging by the statistics of Talanov (although very old ...) are also somewhat more likely to experience feelings of anger and hatred towards someone specifically or in the form of global misanthropy.
If someone takes to typing on this basis, then I note that it works well. However, its scope is still small, and therefore it is subject to the influence of other, more powerful dichotomies. Namely, Ethics, Judiciousness, and Irrationality reinforce Positivism, while Logic, Decisiveness and Rationality - Negativism. Therefore, I do not recommend diagnosing such types as IEE, SEI, LSI and LIE with the help of this dichotomy.
Positivism / Negativism (psychological content):
Since Talanov introduced Asking/Declaring functions, Positivism-Negativism has become a little more clear. In fact, Positivism is the inertness of Declaring functions (Di and De), Negativism is the inertness of the Asking functions (Qi and Qe).
Apparently, the basic content of Asking-Declaring is that Declarers work to achieve consensus, to form a social norm (which is inevitably associated with simplification of ideas), and Askers - to delimit opinions, their deviation from the norm and complication. At least, conflict with Askers occurs much more often, and this is quite understandable in this vein.
The inertness of a function means that the subject is fixated on its aspect. Why does this happen? Apparently, because the inertness of a function is, in fact, a deviation of its value from the average population norm. There may be a positive deviation (excessive strength) or a negative deviation (excessive weakness), but only the absolute size of the deviation is important. Any too strong deviation gives the carrier of the function rare useful properties, but at the same time it also gives harmful properties, which can lead to social disadaptation. Therefore, tracking an aspect of this function becomes very important for a person. If the function is strong, the aspect is monitored, since it is constantly involved and the subject relies too much on it. If it is weak - because the subject is too vulnerable and has to spend forces to always be able to evade other people's work on it. Positivism is obsession with Declaring, that is, consensus opinions. Types with strong inert Declaring (ESE, LSI, LIE and EII) work on consensus, on the convergence and simplification of opinions. Types with weak inert Declaring (SEE, SLI, ILE and IEI), on the contrary, need no consensus to have room for maneuvers (and often they destroy this consensus with their own actions).
Negativism is a fixation on Asking, on the loosening norms of deviance in oneself and other people. Types with strong inert Asking (LII, EIE, ESI and LSE) tend to complicate everything in their area of competence (associated with club values), create deviations from the usual norm. Types with weak inert Asking (ILI, IEE, SEI and SLE), on the contrary, in theory, suffer when everything is too difficult, they would prefer things be simpler, closer to the norm. Therefore, they track deviations to deal with them.
Since deviations from the norm, as I said above, are not a harmless thing, and often leading to disadaptation, a person obsessed with deviations will in fact look out for any unhealthy features in the world, and his mood will deteriorate. Therefore, Negativism becomes associated with depressive melancholia, while Positivism becomes euphoric.
However, on the other hand, the Negativist point of view will be broader than that of the Positivist, since the norm is a narrower thing. Therefore, for example, gullibility, naivety and a tendency to fall for scams are to some extent associated with Positivism. And high intelligence, as I recently figured here, is very weak, but still correlates with Negativism. Negativists, judging by the statistics of Talanov (although very old ...) are also somewhat more likely to experience feelings of anger and hatred towards someone specifically or in the form of global misanthropy.
If someone takes to typing on this basis, then I note that it works well. However, its scope is still small, and therefore it is subject to the influence of other, more powerful dichotomies. Namely, Ethics, Judiciousness, and Irrationality reinforce Positivism, while Logic, Decisiveness and Rationality - Negativism. Therefore, I do not recommend diagnosing such types as IEE, SEI, LSI and LIE with the help of this dichotomy.
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